We should also employ common sense here, nobody is coming to this page on the back of reading Bulbulia or Gugerty. Information laying out the historical development of the term being brought into popular usage should not be deleted as its on-topic, notable and sourced. should be included "for historical and complete coverage"? Hyperbole perhaps, but apparently what was required.--The intent of the use of the phrase was persuasive, not insulting. You realize your essential identity as formless, as an all-pervasive Presence, of Being prior to all forms, all identifications. There are two major problems with this. Sam Bowman. Personally, it appears to me to be an alt-right sneer that seeks to dismiss what others might regard to be compassion, and while I don't think my opinions are a valid basis for anything, its certainly clear, at face value, that this is a label imposed by one party on another party, somewhere on the axis of bad faith and hypocrisy. I am also confused about your note that "VS is not about only moral values", yet the version you revert to changes from "Virtue signalling is the public expression of opinions that show one's own supposed good character or moral correctness." Hopefully we can then work out between us how to stop this pettiness escalating. So the heart of the problem with the article is covered by the second problem noted in Grayfell's excellent post in the 'Pejorative Usage may be OLDER than more academic usage' section of talk. Here is an example of academic use before 2009: And I hate for this to be my first comment but after reading the comments I urge you to look into Chögyam Trungpa latest history because he has been accused of horrible abuse that exemplifies physical, psychological, and spiritual materialism. His self-congratulatory claim to have invented it while apparently expressing faux regret: Also, there is no mention of the frequently pointed out circularity of calling someone virtue signalling - specifically that it is itself an act of virtue signalling. "Reputation seeking has profound effects on the nature of government policies and how they have changed over time. That is why I thought it wasn't notable enough to have its own wikipedia article. It does look like the concept of virtue signaling in academia gains parlance only sometime after 1996. 'Virtue signalling' as commonly used is a pejorative, it is a dialectical device and so should be given treatment as such. Virtue-signalling is when you say something right-on just to sound good ; Therefore Bill is virtue-signalling ; But 3. is not justified by 1. and 2. The expression 'virtue signal', or any such derivative, has had no take-up in signalling theory outside of the two Bulbulia papers. It's not, as far as I can see, something people say about themselves. So yeah, I'm sorry, I think this virtue signaling - which, to be clear, extends way way beyond the March and way beyond feminism and has been a constant on social media for years now - is a pointless alienation of well-meaning potential allies. 4 comments. I would argue that inclusion of the quotes shows the development of the term and its change in usage over time.--I argued it would be suppressing the truth to keep it out, you obviously accepted that as you are now leaving at least part of it in. Virtue signaling for persuasion might be when a sales person mentions that he just got back from Nepal where he was helping to dig water wells. And various versions that go along the following lines: I think we need to get across that it was used before Bartholemew but he popularised it, and give an idea of the ways it has been used.
For the sake of accuracy and neutrality, I suggest that we remove all references to academic use and reduce criticisms to maybe one line about how the phrase has recently come under attack.
I am trying to be constructive and making minor amendments, and giving detailed reasons. Not sure if there’s any research to that, but it seems to make sense in theory. I think these are healthy questions.Yes, don’t follow the finger, but make sure it’s pointing to the moon in all its glory and not the obscured cravings of someone’s ego disguised as the moon.That’s why I read and stay away from groups, at least for now. Going beyond ego is stepping out of content.
The connection to signalling theory is still tenuous - my oft repeated and never-responded to question: how do we justify the work of a theologian being classified as "signal theory"? The Boston Globe is flatly in error.
The cited definition from OD seems suitably broad and should be used as the basis for this, no point citing it and then defining it quite differently as before. ---I have found and cited a post from Huffington Post U.K. that makes mention of the LessWrong usage and holds it as notable due to its early appearance.--Arguments for inclusion of episodes as notable follows that of the Boston Globe: I do it. The discoveries have been exciting!Thank you again, Ian! Here we see he supports the original academic usage. At Home with the Poets I'm not sure what Grayfell means by "Needs to be contextualized by reliable sources". I found and created my life purpose after an existential crisis―synthesizing the world's wisdom to awaken the art of living.
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